All right, ladies, I come to you tonight with a topic that is:
A. very serious,
B. potentially troubling/unpleasant,
C. perhaps "political or a "hot topic" and
D. a topic that could easily devolve into rudeness if we allow it (which we won't, right? Right.)
Before we get started, I'd like to set some ground rules:
1. Do not call out specific fics (don't even hint please)
2. Do not call out specific authors (don't even hint please)
3. Discussion and arguing is fine, but be polite and respectful of those with differing opinions.
This is beyond any single fic or any single author. It's a discussion about a segment of fic that's been around for years now. I'd like to discuss the romanticization or sexualization of non-consensual situations, which includes but is not limited to: rape, human trafficking, sexual assault, pedophilia, etc.
You ask, why such a heavy topic, Kate??? And on a Friday night to boot! Recently, I've come across a few fics (meaning more than like... 5 in the past two weeks) in which female characters (ie Bella) are in situations of dubious or non-existant consent. The male character uses her, kidnaps her, buys her, forces her into servitude, etc. And these fics are labeled as romances.
I'll go ahead and put my two cents out there: it disturbs the hale out of me. Sure, I get the potential hotness of consensual power play, but I can't wrap my head around non-consensual. I just can't because such situations are very real and very unromantic to me.
But they obviously don't disturb some people because some of these fics have rather large followings. And I've read comments in reviews that say things like:
"OMG that's so hot"
"I hope he really gives it to her hard."
"I love this!"
Personally, I don't understand this. But I want to. Seriously, I mean that. This is not meant to stir up drama. It's meant to be a serious and respectful conversation. I would like to understand why/how/what it is about this type of thing that allows people to find these nonconsensual situations sexy/romantic/hot/whatever.
Is it an issue of:
1. It's an ExB so whatever happens is going to automatically be okay? I.e. Edward can do no wrong...
2. It's just fiction so it doesn't matter?
3. Is it lack of understanding of the situation?
4. Is it confusing the psychology of consensual BDSM with these non-consensual situations?
5. An issue of research (or lack there of)
6. Other?
So... unlike my usual campfires, I won't be responding as much (so don't be offended if I don't reply to you, pls). Mostly because I recognize that I have some rather strong opinions. But I'd really, really like to hear your opinions on these fics:
Are they harmless? Are they hot? Is it okay to enjoy these types of plot lines? How do they make you feel? When you see plots such as these, what are your thoughts? Are they damaging? Other thoughts?
Thanks and PLEASE be respectful
ETA: This is NOT a discussion about censorship. This is more of a discussion on WHY some find the situations described above "romantic" and desirable and whether or not you agree. :)