So yeah I'm in a desperate need of some good lemonny recs                                           Is there anything that you guys think I should read??????????

Often times when I'm reading a fic, I'll be *really* into it, but then the writer does something that turns me off. Whatever offends me is like the point of no return and I'll completely drop the story. 

I think there have been similiar campfires answering this question, but can we get more specific? I think a lot of people are like me in the this way - the story goes a direction you don't like and you refuse to keep reading.  I've noticed in the stats for my own fan fic, I'll get a lot of hits, but then I notice a drop off and that people stopped reading.  I'm curious - what turned them off my story?

So, my dear campers, what turns you off a story? 

You're reading it and totally into it, but then _____________ happens and you move on.

I'm so pissed.

I woke up early this morning (shocking, I know) for a job interview and was looking forward to getting my day started with the Epi of For The Summer.

And of course the link is wrong or doesn't work and FF.net feels like being stupid. 

So now I'm upset and am starting my day wrong. 

So eff you, FF.net. Fix your shiz! Pronto....

PS...this is a Eff You campfire. Use this an an outlet to vent about things and say eff you to things/situations/people (not other campers obviously.)

It takes me a year to write a single story, basically.  I'm slow.  Or busy .  Or both.  I can do a chapter a month if I am lucky.

Writers that get a chapter out a week... where the heck do you find the time?   Does it flow out of your head already formed and bee-yoo-ti-ful or do you spend hours and hours editing and rewriting?

How many hours each week do you spend writing?

Do you feel the urge to write every day?

And do you get antsy and cranky if you can't write for some reason -- like staying with the in-laws on vacation.

Hey, I've had 4 glasses of Tuaca and I just want to talk to someone.

So, last night, between the hours of approx. 1 AM and 4 AM central time, I sang to my Twitter followers.

And since it's FFFA, I kind of thought it'd be fun for all of us to sing (or type out the lyrics, LOL) together!

It can be the song you're listening to at the moment, the lyrics that are stuck in your head, your favourite song of all time, whatever! JUST SING WITH ME!

Here's my first lyric:

"Just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world, she took the midnight train goin' anywhere.
Just a city boy, born and raised in south Detroit, he took the midnight train goin' anywhere."

HOW ABOUT WE ALL GUESS THE NAME OF THE SONG WHILE WE'RE AT IT!

It's name that song time! 

For the love of God, somebody PLEASE help me pick a new cell phone! I'm about to drive myself crazy because I can not make a decision! 

OK, so my phone isn't THAT old. But still!  (This was the first cell phone my family had growing up though, so I had to put it on here! My dad still wishes they made "bag phones"!)

Anyway, currently the hubs and I have AT&T. We have family plan + unlimited txt and THAT'S it. Yet our bill is still ridiculous.  What we WANT is an additonal line for calls and texts for the kid, and internet on our two phones.  We aren't committed to staying with AT&T either.  If we do, I'm torn between the I4:

and the Blackberry Torch: 
 

My hang-up with the iphone4 - is that I hate iTunes. No real reason, I. Just. Do. I don't want to like it - KWIM?  But at the same time, I think if I put my big-girl panties on and just do it, I'd <3 it hard. Ugh.
 

I have been thinking of asking you guys for weeks, but then don't thinking I'll just decide, but then I don't do that either. (You see the pattern here?)

Here are some of my questions:

Do you like your provider?
Love/hate the phone you have?
Think one provider is significantly better than the others?
Help me campers. Pretty please?

FYT:
a little JR love
 

And of course

some RP love
 

Hello everyone. My coworker and I have decided to enter a contest with the Hunger Games series. We have to make a display and the best one wins a visit by the author.  So we need helpful ideas. As of now we are thinking and making a Cornucopia to place weapons and such in, having little silver parachutes falling down. But anything else you add would be great!

Mockingjay will be here in less than a week!! Isn't the waiting just torture!

Thank you again for your help

EDIT: I work in a bookstore, so the display needs to be able to show off the books and other product.

oh..is it true Summit has the movie rights to The Hunger Games?? This has me worried :-/

I'll admit it. I've gone off the deep end. All this media in the last week has pushed me off the edge.

I need more RobSten. preferably in fic or video with angsty love songs in the background format. For example:

Friday Free For All!!

You know what this means, Campers.. right??

Last one guys, I promise.  I just wanted to get this up before free for all and before I leave for the weekend.  

First off, thank you to everyone who has been participating in my recent campfires.  The discussions have been really interesting.  When I come back from my trip I'm going to collate the data from the last post and see what we ended up with.  Yes, I'm anal and weird.  I like data.  This one too (sorry, couldn't help it):

Okay, so.  The second thing that seemed to come up frequently in my recent posts was author/reader responsibility so let's discuss that shall we?  In the context of fic though as I think in the 'real' world it's probably a little different.

What responsibilities does the author have in regards to the content of the fic?

What responsibilities does a reader have when it comes to what they read?

Personally?  I think fic authors (and I say this as a fic author) have a rather large responsibility for a couple of reasons.  For me the biggest one being that I know for a fact my fics are read by underage people, some as young as 12 which just makes my head spin sometimes.  Yeah, sure, if I wanted to be super responsible I simply wouldn't post anything at all with the content that I do but I do and therefore I try as much as possible to be responsible about it.  For me what this means is long A/N's with disclaimers and definitions and links out the wazoo.  I don't mean about just any old thing.  There's no horticulture lessons or anything like that.  But for my BDSM fics?  You bet your sweet *ss.  And that's where I think the responsibility with an author lies.  When they are writing about something that could cause potential physical or emotional harm.  If I say penguins live in the desert I'm probably not going to hurt anyone.  But if I say insert bleep into slot bleep hard and fast I damn well better talk about how it's actually done imo.  Just my two cents.

I think readers have a responsibility too especially to heed the warnings of the authors they are reading.  If an author says a story should not be read by minors I think minors should respect that.  It's not that I expect minors to be angels.  I know they aren't going to be.  I also think readers of all ages should pay attention to the warnings authors offer.  On more than one occasion I've seen fics with rape warnings very clearly labeled and yet readers still ended up flaming the author.  I felt like saying "Um, did you not see that ginormous warning saying rape?".  I don't think it's fair to flame an author for something you've been warned about.

Anyway, I'm just curious what you all think as both readers and writers.  As always, play nice and respect everyone's opinions please.

Does anyone know what happend to the author Addybrowneyes? She wrote the story Canzoni D'Amore. Its about Edward as a  Professor for piano and he falls in love with his Teachers Assistant and best student Bella.

It's gone! On both Twilighted and Fanfiction.net and both those profiles are blank now. Also her twitter is gone too!

I haz a sad : ' (

IDK GUISE... I'M IN A MOOD.

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I DECLARE A GIF WAR!

Now, there must be rules.  This will be like the GIF WAR post I made eons ago.  First, if you'd like to hold a personal war with someone on here, simply state their name and post a gif.

For example:

BRATTYVAMP:

*cough* i <3 u *cough*

Secondly, if you'd like to just make a public war, then post a gif and see who comments you back!  This is a good way to have fun and incorporate everyone on here.  Besides, if you've had a shitty day like me, then this will be a good way to laugh your ass off. 

Thirdly... PLAY NICE.  NO SRS BSNS ON HERE.  UNDERSTAND? My gif to Bratty may not seem nice, but it's not SRS BSNS.  MKAY?  MKAY.

with that said...

MAKE IT HAPPEN CAMPERS.

*EDIT: SO DID NOT SEE THE GIF POST DOWN BELOW... MKAY... JUST ADD MORE GIFS GUISE.  ADD MORE GIFS.*

I had to post this after a friend showed it to me.... I can not stop laughing... enjoy!

This lovely piece of artwork was commissioned by Jandco. jandco edit:  the blame for this goes to wolvesnvamps. So I'm blaming the campfire on her too.

I call it "The Appeal."  (I'm bad-ass with a Sharpie, yo.)

Just to make it interactive.... come on in and tell me your favorite dirty joke.

Ok...you like .gifs...I like .gifs.

Since it's quiet in the forest today...let's all trade .gifs!  Let me get you started...

more inside!!!

**approved by ranger grown.ass.woman**

So we're all here for Twilight, right? Right?

Well of course the fanfiction is based off of this movie (book). But I want to know about any OTHER movies that are incorporated into the Twilight fandom/fanfiction.

So let me know if you've read or you've written any fanfiction that was inspired by a movie other than Twilight. Or maybe even a TV show? Were these stories inspired by or do they actually include characters from these other types of media? Is it a crossover? What do you think? Oh and don't forget to link us up!

Mine is in the comments.

First, thanks so much for your participation in the creation of MORE THAN TWENTY (20) recommendation lists!  Wow!  According to the requests y'all have made, we're not done yet!

But I want to make a list of fics that ARE. :)  

Today, I am asking for COMPLETED multi-chapter stories that are ALL-HUMAN.  Just the AH today, people. If you have AU fics (completed stories with an element of the supernatural -- vamps, wolves, etc ) I ask you to post them in last week's COMPLETED AU fic list.

All ratings, all pairings!  Fluff or heartfail, smutty or pristine, I ask you to bring your favorites to recommend to people who will ONLY read completed stories.  

Looking for the rest of the lists? I ask you to check out the MASTER FIC LIST for a boat-load of fics.  People are still asking for new types of recommendations, so the Future Lists List is still growing!  I encourage you to check out the Master Fic List for amazing fics to rec and for amazing fics to read!

Here around this campfire though, I just want your favorite completed AH stories.  My own recs will be within, as always.

THANK YOU SO MUCH for sharing your faves around the fire!

I'm a little drunk, and I need you now!

Yes, ladies and gentleman, I am having a late night/early morning COUNTRY JAM SESSION all by my lonesome. I wish everyone had no life like me so we could jam together. ;p

BUT. I didn't come here to find jam friends (even though that'd be nice).

What I'm looking for is Hick Fics. Or Cowboy Fics. Hillbilly Fics? YES, PLEASE.

I WANT COUNTRYWARD OR COWSPER OR FARMETT.

Please, for the love of God, put me out of my misery!

Thanks!
lib6
(who is so dang overtired that she's singing on Twitter.)

Okay, I've hardly ever started a campfire, but I've been thinking of this topic for quite a while and wondered about other readers' viewpoints.

Is fanfic a legitimate form of literature? As in, can it count as being "literary" in the traditional sense (copyright nonsense aside, we're talking quality)?

I read tons of fic, but I also read tons of books. I have always loved books, and I still love books...I just also love fic. The problem is that fic has become more interesting to me than books.

I just finished reading "Water for Elephants", both because it has a Twi connection (pathetic, I know), and because it's been in my pile for about two years and I happened to get to it. It was good. I liked the story, I liked the main character, but I found myself wishing that it had been written by one of maybe ten fic authors I know because they could do it better.

Is that just sad? I mean, WfE has won awards and is fairly well-written, but I have become super critical of any author now because I have seen so much excellent writing in the world of fic.

Spoilers for WfE if you don't want to know:

The relationship between Jacob and Marlena seemed rushed, forced, and lacking chemistry (it was all there, but their connection was not strong enough to merit Jacob's reactions, or rather it was not written in a strong enough way). There were pretty gross descriptions of the stripper and the dwarf's...assets...but they seemed just stuck there for shock value and not handled in a great way.

There are lots of other things I could comment on with WfE, and that is just one example of traditional fiction I've read lately that makes me pause and think of fanfic.

Am I crazy? I don't know, maybe. I wondered whether I only think that fic is more intriguing because Edward and Bella are always in them, but then I remembered that a really great story always makes me believe that the author could easily publish that story without E/B or any Twi mention and still have a great story that I would gladly read.

Is the definition of storytelling changing? Has the publishing industry, critics, and media's power to "decide" what people like buried the concept of placing good stories on shelves? Do we become addicted to fic because there are some really, really great stories out there amongst all that crap?

I don't know. You tell me.