So . . . I'm not the biggest Twilight fan out there. Far from it. I might have had to google Clearwater, because I thought it was the lake that Charlie fished at. I've not finished reading Breaking Dawn, but I did push through and get farther than the first time I gave up. And I haven't finished seeing New Moon. I couldn't careless what Robbie P and Krissy Stew are up to, or any of them for that matter. I'll wait to Red Box Eclipse. (omg, please don't kick me out, I like it here!)

BUT I don't hate Twilight.

I SERIOUSLY find it hard to believe that something SO amazing as reading could cause serious hate in anyone. But it's out there. And tonight I just had my real first encounter with a Twilight hater. A serious--we should kill all the fangirls--type of person. And I was shocked. I mean I knew the hate was out there . . . but I didn't know it was to SUCH an extreme. Call me naive, call me new to the fandom, call me just plain shocked.

So I'd like to talk about Twilight hate.

Have you, as a writer experienced it? What was it like? How did you handle it? Or as a fangirl or guy have you experienced it? What were those circumstances? And how did you handle it? And/or if you're someone like me, when does your general indifference about the series become hate? Can it?

With Teeth has updated

http://twilighted.net/viewstory.php?sid=7061&chapter=23

go read so we can discuss

quickly people

is Wide Awake a HEA?

i think im finally going to read it, but first i gotta know if it ends happy.

EDIT: BIGTIME SPOILER CONVERSATION GOING ON HERE.

THE FOREST WANTS YOU TO EXPRESS YOUR OPINIONS... PLEASE NO BAD-MOUTHING ANY HUMAN BEINGS.

YEAH, SO WE'RE AWESOME & WE WENT TO SEE ECLIPSE LAST NIGHT WITH PreferBrunettes & JackieJones & Erica_Lopeezy.

I am not posting pictures of them without their permissions, but hey! Here are some superfine photos of me & WTVOC!

She's having a Black Russian.

I'm having the scotch, and the camera cannot truly capture my greatness.

And together... we are EPIC.

Post your photos from your Eclipse event.

or

Tell me your POISON.

or

Both.

Chapter 3.

Jandco and jennyfly own my soul.

Lettuce discuss.

Eric wants you to.

I need your help to find this fic that has been on my mind constantly for the last few weeks.

Its an old fic I guess you could say. It's not recent.

This is all I can remember.

It and E/B story.

I think it goes Edward left Bella like in New Moon and sometime later she see's him at his house in Forks maybe. But now he's human. His eyes are green and he's aged a bit.

Apparently the Volturi made some kind of potion(?) that turns Vamps back into Humans. Rose and Emmett have had kids maybe. But slowly Edward starts to get Vamp traits again Rose freaks out when she finds out and makes Bella promise to take the kids far away.I think the rest of the family is humans..

Also the Epilogue was very sad. I literally cried through the whole ending.

Ringing any bells Ladies? or Gents?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Some pretty for you... but really for me because this is my fav photoshoot evah!

I do not care if this is real or not... it totally gets me hot.

Love Jacob? Love Edward? Hey, I'm Switzerland here. I challenge you to say something really nice about the "opposing team."  Pictures would be great. I'm looking for the kind of pics that would make an Edwardian say, "Usually, I'm all for Edward, but this pic of TLaut almost converted me." And vice versa for the Jacobites. Picspam highly encouraged.

I know you can do it!

Also Team Swiss? Picspam Jacob or Edward hotness or remain neutral ... I need some eye candy, please.

Thank you.

Okay i totally forget who it was by or what it was called but it was about whne edward left he didn't come back for a long time and a few years later he goes to seattle and see's bella as a stripper. she's with mike who beats her and she does drugs and it was really good but i lost it.

I am craving Double Fudge Rendezvous cookies like no other! And I can't for the life of me find the recipe that was on the livejournal community for the cookies (blackhoodiecook). Does anyone still have the recipe? Or can anyone re-create it/link me to something similar?

To make it more interactive, what are some of your favorite recipes?

RANGER EDIT: MAY CONTAIN MOVIE SPOILERS.

APPROACH WITH CAUTION

I saw Eclipse last night, and one part of it stood out to me loud and clearly as a huge mistake. Compared to the books, it's definitely wrong. And I'm almost positive that compared to the first 2 movies it's wrong, but maybe they just didn't cover it in the first 2 so that it wouldn't be a problem for this one.

Okay, I know this sounds horribly vague, and I'm 99% sure it isn't even a spoiler, but just in case, I'm putting the question that this is all about in the comments. And then people can discuss whether or not they think this was a mistake or intentional...

The worst day of my life occurred on November 6 2001, when just three weeks before my wedding a drunk hit and killed my fiancee.  They say that every fifteen minutes someone in the United States is involved in an alcohol related collision.  This is my story.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6099158/1/

Please read and review and spread the word. Drunk driving is not an accident. It's a choice and the consequences are deadly.

Ok, this may or may not be offensive.

I thought it was hilarious. I couldn't figure out how to get the individual video on, so it's a cut and paste deal.

http://www.theonion.com/video/alqaeda-calls-off-attack-on-nations-capitol-to-spa,17688/

This is most definitely tongue-in-cheek.  What say you?

But I need to have a TOTAL fangirl moment.  So I'm in NYC with the bf.  He's working some gig so I always stay at the hotel and just walk around.  Well we were meeting up for dinner and he's complaining about the gig he's on.  

BF: "We're doing the red carpet part for some cartoon movie opening"  

Me: "Oh which one"

BF: "airbender or something"

Me: "um... really..." ::insert some shaking::   "Oh Jackson is there!"

BF: "Whose Jackson?  Is he doing one of the voices?"

Me: "ITS NOT A CARTOON" shows him trailer "and Jackson.. well he's the guy i'm going to leave you for"

I would totally leave you a pretty of the Jackson but I'm on my phone so you should all leave some for me (please!).

Let's do this like we used to. Lots of Pimps, even more recs and some awesome bannerage.

FYI, I am not going to be watching this thread (but there is always a ranger watching.) I have date with my husband to see Eclipse.

KEEP POSTING YOUR REVIEWS

in the review campfire but I won't be reading any of them until I see the movie.

I will try to post another review campfire when I get home but my flasks are full and it is a date so if I don't get to it, there WILL be a new one in the morning.

Until then, KEEP USING THE OLD THREAD TO REVIEW THE MOVIE AS TO NOT SPOIL PEOPLE

and remember, you can always SAVE the thread to your favorites by pressing the pretty heart next to the campfire name!

NOW ONTO THE PIMPS AND RECS!

For years people on the outside have been trying to "get" the Twilight craze. Most of them still think it's about the books, but we know better.

But the article posted by GAW got me to thinking. This fandom says a whole lot more about what women are hungry for than we are willing to admit.

I'm gonna ask that you put on your big girl panties and come on in to play!

I wanna talk about the man / women dynamic. What women really want and how we have confused the hell out of men.

My ideas will be in the comments.

**and this was approved by the Grownass Ranger**

IN HONOR OF ECLIPSE RELEASING TODAY, I DECLARE AN ECLIPSE FAN VIDEO POST.

SO THIS WEEK, POST YOUR FAVORITE ECLIPSE FAN VIDS HERE!

MY REC FOR THE WEEK:

"Disconnect and Self Destruct [Eclipse]" by Swichit98

Per Perez...

Thanks to all you Twi-hards out there, Eclipse brought in an estimated $30 million from more than 4,000 domestic theaters showing midnight Tuesday performances.

WoW!

The film hasn't even made it through opening day and it's already breaking records!

The previous record - $26.3 million - from midnight showings was set by New Moon back in November.

Will Eclipse take the reigns of the Twilight Saga and steal New Moon's record for best opening day of $72.7 million?

just read this on CNN.com....

Why women find vampires hot

(CNN) -- Vampires, werewolves, fallen angels and fairies lurk in the shadows, their intentions far from honorable. Think I'm talking about villains? No, I'm talking about fiction's hottest heroes.

Monsters have always been able to elicit thrills and chills, but for a lot of women lately, those shivers are more of delight than fright. Just turn on your TV, visit a movie theater or wander through a bookstore, and you'll see multiple examples of morally questionable men sporting fangs, fur or fairy wings, all about to sweep women right off their normally sensible feet.

Through fiction and mythology, the paranormal bad boy was usually defeated in the end, but now, you'll more often find him going home with the girl.

Just look at Charlaine Harris' vampire Eric Northman. He might be ruthless and manipulative, but he still has women around the world wishing he'd pick their necks to snack on (myself included, heh). Likewise, Kelley Armstrong's werewolf enforcer Clay is the epitome of antisocial, yet his encounters with Elena are sexier than a throaty growl in the bedroom.

What is it about these anti-heroes that make them so appealing? Is it their good looks --show me an ugly one, and I'll show you a true rarity -- or is something else?

Perhaps some of the appeal of the dangerous-but-yummy paranormal anti-hero lies in his scorn for societal expectations. Yes, women have come a long way, but there are still some cultural stigmas more associated with women than men.

READ THE REST OF THE ARTICLE IN THE COMMENTS....

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WHAT DO YOU THINK, CAMPERS? 

WHY DO YOU THINK WE LIKE THIS STUFF SO MUCH? 

I REALLY WISH I KNEW....

Ok so I've read this story A Little Crazy by LolaShoes and tby789 a while ago and absolutely LOVEd it. It is beautifully written and so not cliche! In fact I liked it so much that I read it again yesterday and am still thinking about it!

Now Can anyone suggest stories that are written in the same style? They can be AU or AH and not even  necessarily canon pairing but as long as they are written beautifully I would love it.

Ps: I am waiting for my final's results and going batshit crazy and cannot for the life of me concentrate on anything so just want to lose myself in  great story. I very much appreciate your suggestions:-)

Love XX M